Friday 3 August 2007

OMG And i actually thought i was getting better

Ok Here are my losing hands from last night . I had to post the all as i need to know if these are big leaks . I dont understand how i can feel i am playing weel yet lose so much . I know there is a ridiculous number of hands here but i would really apppreciate some comments on the 3 bets if at all possible ! I mean have i got them all wrong ?

Hand1
Just a cooler !!


Seat 1: dstevensou19 ($39.05)
Seat 2: pain23 ($178.35)
Seat 3: drunk_onion ($115.45)
Seat 4: kKIRKHAMMETTt ($14.35)
Seat 5: grahamwhite ($55.15)
Seat 6: kkalashian ($23.15)
grahamwhite posts the small blind of $0.25
kkalashian posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to grahamwhite [5d 5s]
dstevensou19 folds
pain23 folds
drunk_onion folds
kKIRKHAMMETTt has 15 seconds left to act
kKIRKHAMMETTt calls $0.50
grahamwhite raises to $2
kkalashian calls $1.50
kKIRKHAMMETTt calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Qs 5h 7h]
grahamwhite checks
kkalashian bets $21.15, and is all in
kKIRKHAMMETTt folds
grahamwhite calls $21.15
kkalashian shows [Qd 9h]
kKIRKHAMMETTt is sitting out
grahamwhite shows [5d 5s]
*** TURN *** [Qs 5h 7h] [4h]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 5h 7h 4h] [Jh]
kkalashian shows a flush, Jack high
grahamwhite shows three of a kind, Fives
kkalashian wins the pot ($45.90) with a flush, Jack high

Hand 2 – Looking back im not so sure I should be re raising with 88 but his figures were 20 / 10 maybe a little to low for the pfr
However once I had made the re raise was I right to make the cBet and correct in folding


Seat 1: schemr ($33.35)
Seat 2: YankeeRomeo7 ($136.05)
Seat 3: tuosevink ($52.35)
Seat 4: ThePHC ($48.40)
Seat 5: grahamwhite ($71.65)
Seat 6: GamblingBrother ($37.65)
grahamwhite posts the small blind of $0.25
GamblingBrother posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to grahamwhite [8h 8s]
schemr calls $0.50
YankeeRomeo7 calls $0.50
tuosevink folds
ThePHC raises to $2.75
grahamwhite has 15 seconds left to act
grahamwhite raises to $8.50
GamblingBrother folds
schemr folds
YankeeRomeo7 folds
ThePHC calls $5.75
*** FLOP *** [2d Td 9c]
grahamwhite bets $14
ThePHC calls $14
*** TURN *** [2d Td 9c] [4h]
grahamwhite checks
ThePHC bets $25.90, and is all in
grahamwhite folds
Uncalled bet of $25.90 returned to ThePHC
ThePHC mucks
ThePHC wins the pot ($44.20)


Hand 3 Now this guys figures were definitely ok to re raise He was about 17 / 14
The thing is should I have made the cbet into this flop . What else could I do
I hate it when there is a rag flop like this and you know that if you check the turn he is going to fire on the river



Seat 1: Samoyed111 ($70.10)
Seat 2: YankeeRomeo7 ($140.85)
Seat 3: grahamwhite ($58.55)
Seat 4: bluemonstr22 ($44.50)
Seat 5: agpoker96 ($50)
Seat 6: zerosum79 ($91)
YankeeRomeo7 posts the small blind of $0.25
grahamwhite posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to grahamwhite [Ks Ah]
bluemonstr22 folds
zerosum79 folds
Samoyed111 raises to $1.75
YankeeRomeo7 folds
grahamwhite has 15 seconds left to act
grahamwhite raises to $5.50
Samoyed111 calls $3.75
*** FLOP *** [5h 9d 3s]
grahamwhite bets $9.50
Samoyed111 calls $9.50
*** TURN *** [5h 9d 3s] [9c]
grahamwhite checks
Samoyed111 bets $30.25
grahamwhite folds
Uncalled bet of $30.25 returned to Samoyed111
Samoyed111 mucks
Samoyed111 wins the pot ($28.75)

Hand 4 - thiis guy had been like play 50/14 and had a massive stack
Probably should have not double barreled


Seat 1: schemr ($27.05)
Seat 2: YankeeRomeo7 ($145.05)
Seat 3: Vieille Peau ($10.40)
Seat 4: ThePHC ($66.90)
Seat 5: grahamwhite ($47.90)
Seat 6: GamblingBrother ($31.05)
grahamwhite posts the small blind of $0.25
GamblingBrother posts the big blind of $0.50
5 seconds left to act
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to grahamwhite [Ts Td]
schemr folds
YankeeRomeo7 calls $0.50
ThePHC folds
grahamwhite raises to $2
GamblingBrother folds
YankeeRomeo7 calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [2s 7d Jd]
grahamwhite bets $4.50
YankeeRomeo7 calls $4.50
*** TURN *** [2s 7d Jd] [Js]
grahamwhite has 15 seconds left to act
grahamwhite bets $8.50
YankeeRomeo7 raises to $138.55, and is all in
grahamwhite folds
Uncalled bet of $130.05 returned to YankeeRomeo7
YankeeRomeo7 mucks
YankeeRomeo7 wins the pot ($29)

Hand 5 - here we go again another 3 bet with a small pp , Although im sure that when it comes to 3 betting its more to do with the player and position and not so much the cards . I think that I am overbetting my cbets on the 3 bets

Atlas King posts the small blind of $0.25
WhetSpot posts the big blind of $0.50
the button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to grahamwhite [7s 7c]
jselling calls $0.50
grahamwhite raises to $2.25
TheNutters calls $2.25
dentalfrank calls $2.25
Atlas King folds
WhetSpot calls $1.75
jselling calls $1.75
*** FLOP *** [3s 5s Jd]
WhetSpot checks
jselling checks
grahamwhite checks
TheNutters checks
dentalfrank bets $2.50
WhetSpot has 15 seconds left to act
WhetSpot folds
jselling folds
grahamwhite raises to $11.50
TheNutters folds
dentalfrank calls $9
*** TURN *** [3s 5s Jd] [6h]
grahamwhite checks
dentalfrank bets $9
grahamwhite adds $20.30
grahamwhite folds
Uncalled bet of $9 returned to dentalfrank
dentalfrank mucks
dentalfrank wins the pot ($32.80)

Hand 6 – I played this pretty weakly I think tried to play a raise and a cbet against this player looks like I should have double barrelled and folded to his river bet

Seat 1: grahamwhite ($54.70)
Seat 2: DuggleBogey ($41.20)
Seat 3: ab1x ($102.50)
Seat 4: Heartachee ($50)
Seat 5: tash78 ($22)
Seat 6: zerosum79 ($59.05)
DuggleBogey posts the small blind of $0.25
ab1x posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to grahamwhite [Jd Th]
tash78 folds
zerosum79 folds
grahamwhite raises to $1.75
DuggleBogey calls $1.50
ab1x has 15 seconds left to act
ab1x folds
*** FLOP *** [9d Qc Ts]
DuggleBogey checks
grahamwhite has 15 seconds left to act
grahamwhite bets $4
DuggleBogey calls $4
*** TURN *** [9d Qc Ts] [Jh]
DuggleBogey checks
grahamwhite checks
*** RIVER *** [9d Qc Ts Jh] [Ah]
DuggleBogey has 15 seconds left to act
DuggleBogey bets $7
grahamwhite has 15 seconds left to act
grahamwhite calls $7
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DuggleBogey shows [9c Ac] two pair, Aces and Nines
grahamwhite mucks
DuggleBogey wins the pot ($24.70) with two pair, Aces and Nines

Hand 7 - yipes another 3 bet - I don’t think there was anything wrong with this 3 bet . I should have spotted this guys stack here though . I mean he only has one bet So that maybe where th problems was
All in


Seat 1: INGELTROD ($41)
Seat 2: kauch12 ($50.85)
Seat 3: MelloAceCV ($12.65)
Seat 4: Colonel Mustard ($50)
Seat 5: grahamwhite ($50.55)
Seat 6: schemr ($161.45)
grahamwhite posts the small blind of $0.25
schemr posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to grahamwhite [Kh Qc]
INGELTROD folds
kauch12 folds
MelloAceCV raises to $1.75
grahamwhite has 15 seconds left to act
grahamwhite raises to $5.75
schemr folds
MelloAceCV raises to $12.65, and is all in
grahamwhite calls $6.90
MelloAceCV shows [7d 7c]
grahamwhite shows [Kh Qc]
*** FLOP *** [8s 5h Jc]
*** TURN *** [8s 5h Jc] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [8s 5h Jc 7h] [Tc]
MelloAceCV shows three of a kind, Sevens
grahamwhite shows King Queen high
MelloAceCV wins the pot ($24.55) with three of a kind, Sevens

5 comments:

DODGYKEN said...

Use pokerhand.org for your hand histories - it keeps the blog much neater and easier to read. Also, try and limit your hands to 4 max as it's a bit daunting trying to reply to so many.

Hand 1: Horrible suckout. If you're getting your money in good and losing the hand you don't need to worry about it.

Hand 2: Yeah I probably just call 88 against a 20/10. Once you've made it, it's definitely worth a stab on the flop, then you have to give up.

Hand 3: I make the C-bet a bit bigger - maybe $6.50. After that, I play it the same way. He probably has JJ, TT, or 88.

Hand 4: I don't hate the double barrel because if he's on a flush draw he might fold, or he might call and you can take a free showdown. Another way to play it is to check behind and call a non-diamond river bet from him after inducing a bluff.

Hand 5: You didn't 3-bet in this one - you made the first raise. I wouldn't bet this flop. Even though there's only 1 overcard to you pair, there are 5 players to the flop and it's too likely one of them has a J. I definitely don't like the check-raise - if you want to take a stab then bet out yourself, although I would just check it I think.

Hand 6: Sometimes I bet this turn and sometimes I don't. You played it OK - I think it's worth calling the river after inducing a bluff. Betting the turn is OK too because it's more likely he has a J for the draw than a K or an 8.

Hand 7: Yeah I wouldn't be 3-betting lightly against a guy with only a 20% stack. Depending on his stats, you could call and felt any K or Q high flop. If he's fairly tight, I'd just throw it away pre-flop.

grinder said...

Thanks ken sorry about the hands
just trying to ort a way of posting my blog at work where i cant access the pokerhandorg
but i think ive sorted it ill pokerhad org at home then the commentries at work
so if you see aload of hands on there own you ll know whats going on

RakebackFAQ said...

Hand 1) Thats ul but i wouldnt check raise here you have a monster and by doing that you telling him you have 1. Didnt matter beacuse he went allin but this is a good board for just betting at TP people. Bet bigger on the turn beacuse of the flush draw.

Hand 2) Your either way behind or way ahead here. I wouldnt RR beacuse hes playing tight and only raising good hands top 10%!. Call and work from there you might be able to figure if he has a big pair or not.

Hand 3) I dont mind how you played this i put him on a small/med pair here.

Hand 4) Hes just trying to scare you there i think the 2nd J makes it more likely he dosent have 1 i think he would do that with A7 55.Then again if hes running hot he could well have it!

Hand 5) Cbet this flop instead or check raising. Already iam seeing a pattern of you checking the flop. I bet you do it real fast try counting to 5 or 10 before you do anything, make it a habbit. You put yourself into a bad spot here.

Hand 6) Bad call by him on that flop... c bet the turn he cant continue unless hes an ejitplus if he does you can fold the river.

Hnad 7) I dont really mind this RR if hes playing lots of hands but if hes a tight shorty its an easy fold. Theres no point in gambling with them beacuse the payoff is not worth the risk.

Marc said...

As opposed to pokerhand, you can use most any converter (I use legopoker, but there are a ton), if you want to keep the hand inline with your blog post. I like reading them like that more than the pokerhand format, personally, although I think a lot of the CR crew likes pokerhand. Also, some of the converters don't have poker in the url, so work may not block them ;).

Hand 1: Yeah, saw that and commented in your earlier post.

Hand 2: I play this the same way at times, and other times just call. Being out of position, I tend to 3-bet it more than call, though, as I want to take the initiative. Given preflop, postflop seems standard.

Hand 3: Fine. Martin, I think you were looking at the reraise amt, not the c-bet amt...he c-bet about 3/4 pot.

Hand 4: Again, I think that this is OK. Being OOP sucks. Yes, he may have pushed you off a better hand, but it's a huge price to pay in order to find out. On the other hand, there are all sorts of draws he may call with....when I'm playing bad, I tend to think that all the big turn bets are bluffs or semibluffs, and while I'm sure a number of them are, I just don't think you've got the odds to call and find out. Eventually, most guys who make such big moves will do it when you catch a good hand, and you'll get their stacks, but this time he caught you with a fairly marginal hand for the board.

Hand 5: Pretty tempted to just give this one up, but this is definitely not the time for a c/r. If you want to put money in, make a c-bet. However, with so many people in, there's a good chance you're behind, and if you're ahead, you've got pretty bad reverse implied odds against such a large field.

Hand 6: I could see either betting or checking behind the turn. That river card bad for you, and the board is really scary for villain, so I would fold.

Hand 7: So, this may be totally weak of me, but I would just pitch this vs. a short stack. So much of his range here are PP's and A-x looking to get it all in that I just don't see the equity. If he were more deeply stacked, then I like the 3-bet.

Bluff said...

Hand 2: I don't like a reraise here with 88. You are OOP vs. a tight player. The strong majority of the time, you won't hit your 8 and over cards will flop. Reraising and checking is very weak, yet leading out at most flops without the 8 is more or less bluffing a tight preflop raiser blind.

Hand 3: Again, you are raising a tight aggressive preflop raiser OOP.

Hand 4: This is a pretty easy check/fold (or check/call depending your read of your opponent) on the turn.

Hand 5: I think a better play would just be to lead out on the flop as a c-bet and get out if you encounter any resistance. That being said, a c/r once in a while isn't terrible, but I think you have to follow through on the turn. Check/raise flop, check turn is a pretty weak line, imo.